With Love And Justice For All

Ep.162 - The Authoritarian In The Mirror

In our rejection of fascism and authoritarianism, are we taking the time to explore how those energies exist within us as well? Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun examine how that which we oppose also lives within us, and our spiritual work is to inquire and transform.

Ep.161 - No Kings, No Hate

Kelly and Ogun give an overview of their upcoming book club selection SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE and why it's necessary for non-religious folk to have some Bible education to neutralize those who weaponize scripture for harm. They also give a brief recap of their No Kings protest experiences.
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Sign up today for our final book club selection of the year SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE: A SANE PERSON'S GUIDE TO TAKING BACK THE BIBLE FROM FUNDAMENTALISTS, FASCISTS, AND FLOCK_FLEECING FRAUDS by John Fugelsang on Thursdays, Nov 6, 13, 20 at 7:30-9:00pm ET (Zoom) -- projectsanctus.com/846-book-club

Ep.160 - The Many Faces Of Church

The church has many faces: sanctuary, prophet, enabler, revolutionary. Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun discuss the ways church is, and should be, showing up for today. Rev Kelly also reflects on moderating a discussion with John Pavlovitz, a former youth pastor and author, known for his social and political writings from a liberal Christian perspective. 

Ep.159 - LOVE vs Love

By calling God "Love" are we misunderstanding a spiritual principle and using it as an excuse to spiritually bypass? Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun discuss how the spiritual principle of LOVE is too often conflated with the comfort of emotional love, and why it leads to silence and inaction.
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** SAVE THE DATES ** Our final book club selection of the year SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE by John Fugelsang will take place via Zoom on Thursdays, Nov 6, 13, 20 at 7:30-9:00pm ET. Registration coming soon.

Ep.158 - Can't Borrow From Hate To Teach Love

Revs Kelly & Ogun break down why, if you're a movement for love and inclusion, it's not a good idea to learn strategies from hate organizations.
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The Body Is Not An Apology offers radical self-love as the balm to heal the wounds inflicted by these violent systems. World-renowned activist and poet Sonya Renee Taylor invites us to reconnect with the radical origins of our minds and bodies and celebrate our collective, enduring strength. Join our free book study on Thur, Sep 25, 7:30pm on Zoom. Everyone is welcome regardless of how much you've read. More info & free registration at projectsanctus.com/846-book-club

Ep.157 - Hypocrisy & Hate

Revs Kelly & Ogun discuss Charlie Kirk's murder, various reactions to it, and the struggle spiritual seekers are having as they try to live in the tension between empathy for a gun violence victim who also happened to be a vile bigot.
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So much has happened in the last few days, and there aren't many safe spaces to process. If there was ever a week to participate in an Antiracism Affinity Group, THIS IS THE WEEK! Join our free Affinity Groups every 1st & 3rd Wed at 7:30pm ET on Zoom. More info and registration at projectsanctus.com/antiracism-affinity-groups
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The Body Is Not An Apology offers radical self-love as the balm to heal the wounds inflicted by these violent systems. World-renowned activist and poet Sonya Renee Taylor invites us to reconnect with the radical origins of our minds and bodies and celebrate our collective, enduring strength. Join our free book study on Thur, Sep 25, 7:30pm on Zoom. Everyone is welcome regardless of how much you've read. More info & free registration at projectsanctus.com/846-book-club

Ep.156 - The Jamie Raskin Challenge

In a recent interview, Democrat Rep Jamie Raskin challenged listeners to compare the Bill of Rights with the 10 Commandments. Rev Kelly accepted. 
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If your body holds the wound, it also holds the way through. WHAT IT TAKES TO HEAL: HOW TRANSFORMING OURSELVES CAN CHANGE THE WORLD isn’t a self-help book. It’s a call to reclaim your wholeness in a broken world.
Join us for an 8:46 Book Club deep dive on Thur, Aug 28 , 7:30-9:30pm EST (Zoom)
Free registration now open at https://projectsanctus.com/846-book-club/
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Rituals of Justice: Sacred Practices for Collective Liberation is a 2-hour online experience for both individuals and communities who want to deepen their social justice work in ways that are rooted, sustainable, and heart-centered. Inclusive, trauma-aware, and designed to help you reconnect to what matters. This is for anyone longing to stay tender while showing up fierce.
Saturday, Sept 6, 10am-12pm EST (Zoom). Registration now open at https://projectsanctus.com/events/ritualsofjustice/

Ep.155 - Rituals Of Justice

Revs Kelly & Ogun explore the importance of rituals in justice work, and give a preview of their upcoming learning pod. 
Discover more about project_SANCTUS and make a donation at https://projectsanctus.com/
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If your body holds the wound, it also holds the way through. WHAT IT TAKES TO HEAL: HOW TRANSFORMING OURSELVES CAN CHANGE THE WORLD isn’t a self-help book. It’s a call to reclaim your wholeness in a broken world.
Join us for an 8:46 Book Club deep dive on Thur, Aug 28 , 7:30-9:30pm EST (Zoom)
Free registration now open at https://projectsanctus.com/846-book-club/
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Rituals of Justice: Sacred Practices for Collective Liberation is a 2-hour online experience for both individuals and communities who want to deepen their social justice work in ways that are rooted, sustainable, and heart-centered. Inclusive, trauma-aware, and designed to help you reconnect to what matters. This is for anyone longing to stay tender while showing up fierce.
Saturday, Sept 6, 10am-12pm EST (Zoom). Registration now open at https://projectsanctus.com/events/ritualsofjustice/

Ep.154 - MAGA In Our Pews

Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun share their thoughts about the Mehdi Hasan vs 20 Far-Right Conservatives debate, why some our clergy still struggle with addressing current issues directly, and how playing to both sides is not in alignment with our spiritual principles.
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Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century by Amia Srinivasan. Thur, Jul 27, 7:30pm ET on Zoom. More info & sign-up at projectsanctus.com/846-book-club
Registration now open for our next learning pod Thriving In Troubled Times. This workshop is for anyone feeling grief, rage, exhaustion, or spiritual disorientation in the face of political cruelty and social collapse. We’ll explore spiritual tools for emotional survival, nervous system grounding, and small daily acts of sacred resistance. Sat, Jul 26, 9am ET. More info & registration at projectsanctus.com/events/thriving-troubled-times

Ep.153 - Grief Work Is Liberation Work

Many of us are grieving the state of the world, our unrealized liberation dreams, and the justice work we did over the years. Rev Kelly & Rev Ogun talk about navigating this grief, and share rituals that can help us along the way.
To learn more about project_SANTCUS and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com
Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century by Amia Srinivasan. Thur, Jul 27, 7:30pm ET on Zoom. More info & sign-up at projectsanctus.com/846-book-club
Registration now open for our next learning pod Thriving In Troubled Times. This workshop is for anyone feeling grief, rage, exhaustion, or spiritual disorientation in the face of political cruelty and social collapse. We’ll explore spiritual tools for emotional survival, nervous system grounding, and small daily acts of sacred resistance. Sat, Jul 26, 9am ET. More info & registration at projectsanctus.com/events/thriving-troubled-times

Ep.152 - Resist Or Run?

Rev. Kelly and Rev. Ogun discuss the relationship many spiritual seekers have with the word and idea of resistance, as well as the complexities of making a decision to flee the country in the face of oppression. 
To learn more about project_SANTCUS and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com
Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century by Amia Srinivasan. Thur, Jul 27, 7:30pm ET on Zoom. More info & sign-up at projectsanctus.com/846-book-club
Registration now open for our next learning pod Thriving In Troubled Times. This workshop is for anyone feeling grief, rage, exhaustion, or spiritual disorientation in the face of political cruelty and social collapse. We’ll explore spiritual tools for emotional survival, nervous system grounding, and small daily acts of sacred resistance. Sat, Jul 26, 9am ET. More info & registration at projectsanctus.com/events/thriving-troubled-times

Ep.151 - Back In The Hellscape

Rev Kelly & Rev Ogun return for a 5th season with a recap of their time off and inspiration for the work ahead in these dark times.

Ep.150 - Protest & Paganism

Recording on May 1st (International Workers Day) Revs Kelly & Ogun draw parallels between celebrating the struggles and rights of laborers and the Gaelic spring pagan festival of Beltane.

Ep.148 - Religious Tides

Revs Kelly & Ogun talk about the death of Pope Francis, his papacy, and how we might be more religious than we think.

Ep.148 - Talkin' Bout A (Easter) Revolution

Revs Kelly & Ogun view the Easter story and Jesus' life from a paradigm of revolution against Empire. 

Ep. 147 - Freedom From Or Free For?

Rev Kelly recounts her "Hands Off!" demonstration experience and discusses with Rev Ogun how our paradigm of freedom determines our attitude and action around justice.

Ep.146 - Lent Pt.2: Finding Joy in Plan B, C, D...

Revs Kelly & Ogun continue their discussion about lent with a focus on joy, justice, reinvention, and finding comfort in unmade plans.

Ep. 145 - Lent Pt.1: Bridge of Lamentations

As we explore what Lent means for us today, we discuss loss, grief, and lamenting as a healing spiritual practice.

Ep.144 - No Shame In Shame

Revs Kelly and Ogun explore the potentially debilitating impact of shame, while also acknowledging that it may serve a useful purpose in justice work.

Ep.143 - Just So We're Clear

Revs Kelly & Ogun talk about prophetic spirituality as a path to clarity of conviction and commitment to justice.